Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/27/2019 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:00:59 AM Start
09:02:23 AM Confirmation Hearing: Commissioner-designee Kelly Tshibaka, Department of Administration
09:48:19 AM Adjourn
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Commissioner-Designee Kelly Tshibaka, Department
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 27, 2019                                                                                          
                         9:00 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:00:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Kelly   Tshibaka,   Commissioner-Designee,  Department   of                                                                     
Administration; Josiah Tshibaka, Eldest Son, Commissioner-                                                                      
Designee Kelly Tshibaka; Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION    HEARING:    COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE    KELLY                                                                   
TSHIBAKA, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY   TSHIBAKA,   COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE,  DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                     
ADMINISTRATION, stated  that her  resume was  accurate, and                                                                     
had been background-checked by the FBI, and other agencies.                                                                     
She  continued  to   discuss  her  background.  She  shared                                                                     
information about a church created by her and her husband.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:12:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  wondered whether she  would "work  with the                                                                     
rank and file" to stay in line with the mission.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied  that throughout her                                                                     
career, she  found that it  was important to work  with the                                                                     
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  felt that  she might be  overqualified for                                                                     
the position. He  wondered how she would  fulfill the goals                                                                     
of the administration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman further wondered how she would fulfill the                                                                     
responsibilities of the department.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied that the role of the                                                                     
Department   of  Administration   (DOA)   was  to   provide                                                                     
consistent  and efficient  support  services  to the  state                                                                     
agencies to better serve  Alaskans. She understood that the                                                                     
goals  of the  administration were  to do  what  they could                                                                     
within the  means to accomplish the  most critical services                                                                     
for Alaska.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop noted that data had driven her decisions. He                                                                     
wondered whether  she would stand  up to her  superiors, if                                                                     
the data did not support their decisions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied  in the affirmative,                                                                     
and stated that she had experience in that scenario.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:19:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  wondered whether there was  an intent                                                                     
to  continue the  work  in elections,  National Guard,  and                                                                     
Constitutional Convention issues.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  replied that  when she  was                                                                     
brought into  the  administration, she served  as  a policy                                                                     
advisor  to  the  governor.  Her  purpose  was  to  conduct                                                                     
efficiency and effectiveness reviews. She remarked that the                                                                     
review  was a  multidisciplinary  approach  to determine  a                                                                     
program's efficiency and effectiveness.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson noted  that Ms.  Tshibaka came  from a  very                                                                     
mixed background. He wondered why she wanted the position.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  announced that  one of  her                                                                     
core values  was wanting  to help  other people.  She loved                                                                     
Alaska, and wanted to help Alaskans.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:25:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche queried  the position in DOA  prior to the                                                                     
appointment to commissioner.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied  that she  was first                                                                     
appointed as policy advisor to the governor.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche queried the state date of that employment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Tshibaka   replied  that   it  began                                                                     
January 21, 2019.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche stated that  he prescribed to a philosophy                                                                     
of  continuous improvement.  He  stated  that there  was  a                                                                     
natural  resistance in  the  public sector  to continue  to                                                                     
improve. He  remarked that  there were some  private sector                                                                     
philosophies in  Ms. Tshibaka history.  He wondered whether                                                                     
the administration would allow her to use those abilities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka relayed  that the governor's                                                                     
office seemed receptive to her ideas.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted a letter about the mission of DOA.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  queried examples of  areas on  where data                                                                     
analytics could help move in a forward direction.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka believed that there could be                                                                     
significant  cost  efficiencies   applying  data  analytics                                                                     
against  health   care  numbers.  She   believed  that  the                                                                     
Workman's Comp program could also see efficiencies.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:30:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Shower noted  the inspector general work,  and felt                                                                     
that it was important to examine fraud, waste, or abuse. He                                                                     
asked about consolidation of services.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied that if there was an                                                                     
effort  to  consolidate  services, especially  for  travel,                                                                     
accounts   payable,   procurement,  human   resources,   so                                                                     
excellent service could be provided, she felt that would be                                                                     
a huge success for the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski noted that she would oversee thousands                                                                     
of state  employees. He wondered  whether the state  or any                                                                     
agency  to discriminate  against employees  based on  their                                                                     
sexual orientation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  replied  that  she did  not                                                                     
believe  that   any  agency   should  discriminate  against                                                                     
employees based on their sexual orientation                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson noted the  numerous databases in the various                                                                     
agencies. He asked about  information about the security of                                                                     
those databases.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:35:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Tshibaka   replied   that  she   was                                                                     
concerned about the privacy and security of the information                                                                     
systems. She  had  confidence the  efforts to  heighten the                                                                     
information security.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson appreciated those efforts.  He felt that she                                                                     
was the right person for the position.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman queried experience in rural Alaska, and how                                                                     
she would affect them.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka shared that she had traveled                                                                     
to some parts of rural Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  wondered  whether  the  Public  Defender's                                                                     
Office was sufficiently staffed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka replied that there were some                                                                     
needs in the Public Defender's Office, but she did not know                                                                     
those needs yet.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered whether Ms. Tshibaka had been to the                                                                     
North Pole.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  replied that  she had  been                                                                     
above the Arctic Circle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson noted the 1200 mile difference.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka shared that she  had been to                                                                     
the oil fields.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   stressed  that  public   broadcasting  was                                                                     
essential to the most  of the communities, especially those                                                                     
that had the largest revenue  for the state. He queried the                                                                     
thoughts  on  the   administration's  defunding  of  public                                                                     
broadcasting.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Tshibaka  replied  that  the  Alaska                                                                     
Public Broadcasting Commission (APBC) provided an essential                                                                     
service to the rural communities. She stated that the state                                                                     
funding was  not the  only funding  that the  received. She                                                                     
stated that  it received  federal funds, and  could receive                                                                     
funds from local, community,  and tribal grants. She stated                                                                     
that it  received grants  from the Department  of Commerce,                                                                     
Community and Economic Development (DCCED).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:40:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered whether she  was in  agreement with                                                                     
the  administration  to  withhold  funds  for  those  radio                                                                     
stations.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  replied that  she inherited                                                                     
the  budget,  but  would  talk with  APBC  to  examine  the                                                                     
remainder of their financial output.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  noted that the  state Public Defender                                                                     
had testified  that cuts had  placed the state at  risk for                                                                     
violating the constitution. He remarked that the budget cut                                                                     
public defenders. He  wondered how quickly  the audit would                                                                     
be complete.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  responded  that the  Public                                                                     
Defender was able to meet the obligation through FY 19, and                                                                     
would extend the appellate backlog into FY 20.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether  she intended  to assist                                                                     
the budget process in the subcommittees.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Tshibaka  replied  that   she  would                                                                     
confirm with OMB about the plan for subcommittee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman stressed  that it was difficult  to do the                                                                     
subcommittee work with only OMB.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche asked that  Ms. Tshibaka become intimately                                                                     
educated with the budget.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop stated  that he never missed  a meeting with                                                                     
the   committee  or   subcommittee   when   he  served   as                                                                     
commissioner of a department.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski asked  whether there was an  intent to                                                                     
seek reductions in any existing state collective bargaining                                                                     
agreements, or  seek reductions  in retirement  benefits or                                                                     
health insurance.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Tshibaka  replied  that  she was  not                                                                     
intending to changing the direction of any program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:46:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSIAH  TSHIBAKA, ELDEST  SON,  COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE KELLY                                                                     
TSHIBAKA, introduced himself.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered the legislature should  give his                                                                     
mother the job.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Tshibaka replied in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman MOVED to  FORWARD the appointment of Kelly                                                                     
Tshibaka  in  accordance  with AS  39.05.080,  to  a  joint                                                                     
legislative session  for  consideration as  commissioner of                                                                     
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman informed  that the action  did not reflect                                                                     
an intent by any of the  members to vote for or against the                                                                     
confirmation of the individual during any further sessions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
9:48:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:48 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Confirmation Resume FIN Commissioner DOA Tshibaka #7.pdf SFIN 2/27/2019 9:00:00 AM
Confirmations 2019